Episode Transcript
<p><!--block-->Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Couple of Nukes. As always, I'm your host, Mr. Whiskey, and today we are gonna be talking about overall health. We're gonna address it from a couple different angles and aspects, but overall, the message I usually put forward on my show is that we're currently living in a society that is very pill for the ill, as Rob Renee described it, and I really like that it's easy to memorize, you know, and. The thing is we do a lot of symptom management, at least here in America. I can't speak for other countries, but here in America, a lot of symptom management rather than dealing with the root causes of issues. And there's a lot of political drive in medicine. There's a lot of economic drive in medicine, but there are people taking a step back and working with everything and doing something that. I believe is really important. Something I have complained the military is very behind on, which is individualized personalized care. Having that doctor patient relationship where you're actually talking to the patient and getting to know their needs and cares. Because when you try to do this. Sprawl, throw a blanket over everyone. You end up having a lot of issues because not everyone's physique is the same. Not everyone's reaction to medicine is the same. Not everyone has the same causes for the same symptoms and so, or vice versa. And so I think it's really important that we look at the whole body and everything in life. So here to discuss all that with us. Dr. Mark Sherwood, so great to have you here. And could you please tell us a little bit about yourself? Thank you so much for having me. I'm really honored to be with you today. I, I stand alone today by using my wife, Dr. Michelle is with me a little bit about us. I am a traditional naturopathic doctor. My wife Michelle is, um, is an osteopathic doctor, but together we work with the Functional Medical Institute in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where we, as you stated in your intro, we personalized all healthcare decisions. So we look at a variety of angles. Uh, we look at nutrition, sleep, stress management movement. Um. Activity, right. Um, we look at DNA, we look at hormones, peptides, and supplementation, and we wrap it all around, you know, the individual person from an emotional standpoint, spiritual standpoint, and you have to put all that together. There's no question about it. So we've been doing this a long, long time, uh, between us both probably 40 years together, 15 years. And, um, little interesting side note before this, I was a police officer where I served my community for 24 years and 10 years of that one on the SWAT team. And, um. Before that I was with the world famous power team. For a lot of times I'd been around the world breaking bricks and running through big piles of ice and things like that for kind of an evangelistic message. So I had a lot of experience and between the two of us, we've uh, written several books, I think six or seven, and then we've made. I think eight full-length movies now. So it's been a busy life, but uh, our passion is seeing people get well and stay well. And therefore that leads into our mission statement, which is to lead people to the pathway of true healing. For sure, and there's a lot to unpack there. But I wanna start with a very basic question, but I think it's so important to everything that we're gonna be talking about functional medicine. For those who have never heard of that or have heard of that but couldn't define it, what is that? What is that key word? Functional medicine. What differentiates it from everything else? Well, I think the first way to describe that is to describe what it's not. It's not symptom-based medicine. So as you mentioned, this current healthcare system we have in this country is a disaster and uh, we're in the worst health we've ever been in the history of mankind's existence right now. Those are facts, not according to Mark, not according to Michelle, but according to the CD. C or the Centers of Disease Control, which I like to fondly refer to as the centers of disease out of control. Now, with that said. Um, symptom-based medicine is, let's say, here comes Mr. Whiskey in to see Dr. Mark. Well, you complain of X, Y, Z symptoms and I run it through an algorithm and I decide which medication I'm gonna get you to relieve the symptoms. I get you the medication, you go out the door and you're gone. The symptoms get better. That's a win. It never did address the root causes. If you come back two weeks later with different symptoms, I'm gonna get you a different medication. And that's really all it is. Is it sometime necessary, I suppose. But if that's all there is, that's not completely re reaching the potential of looking at the whole person. So income's functional medicine, which looks at different systems, biology, in other words, the systems of the body. It realizes that all symptoms are interconnected. They're not separate. For example, current systems are, you know, we have a stomach ache. PCP refers you to the GI Doc. If you have a brain issue, they refer you to the neurologist. They have a foot issue, they refer you, refer you to the podiatrist, but they don't talk to each other. Whereas systems based biology looks at the systems and how they interact and interdependent upon each other. And so that's where functional medicine comes in. We look at the systems. So same situation here 'cause Mr. Whiskey in with a few symptoms. We ask the questions, we might be thinking about medicines that might be applicable in this case, depending on the severity of those symptoms, but we're more doing a search diving deep to determine what caused the symptoms that you have and trying to remediate or fix those things in the upstream approach so that the function of the system returns to normal, thereby the symptoms go away and therefore takes us out of the realm of prescribing medication. Yeah, I think it's interesting that it's almost backwards, whereas people start with isolated organs or symptoms first and then slowly brought out to the whole system instead of doing the funnel method, so to speak, where you look at the whole system and then if you can't isolate, isolate down, isolate down, isolate down. Um, and it just doesn't, I dunno, for me, someone who likes to think very logically, you know. If you have this complicated system of organs with hun, you know, thousands of different cellular functions going on and all these different complicated things, why would you look at just one thing instead of first saying, all right, big picture is everything doing its job, okay, it is. Now let's zoom in on what's not doing its job. You know? So it, it definitely is, and I think part of this goes to even mental health side, the amount of veterans and law, especially, you haven't been in law enforcement, you know, first responders and military members who. Or being treated for PTSD via numbing, just here, take weed all day, sit on your front porch and just numb the symptoms instead of like, Hey, what can we do to try and address the root cause? And sometimes you can't, right? There's certain types of P ts D that is just deeply rooted, right? But just numbing, numbing, a lot of bandaid fixes, you know? Whereas, hey, again, same with I feel like with so many things of depression, it's like, all right, we're just gonna numb you and now you can't feel anything. Instead of like, okay. What is causing the depression is, is, is it anchored to a trauma? Is it anchored to mm-hmm. Chemistry, you know, there's a lot of different things to look at, but instead it's just like, okay, you're, you're on antidepressants now and maybe you're happier, or maybe you're just not feeling as sad, and then people call it a day and it's, it is, it is truly sad. Very much so. I've dealt with a lot of trauma in my day and I do understand the concept of PTSD. I've been, uh, you know, had the experience of dealing with law enforcement and even a lot of military people as well. You know, it kind of overlaps in the things you see, the things you go through and the things you experience and people that. Have never done that, have no idea. Um, so, you know, people Monday morning quarterbacks, I just tell 'em, don't miss a good opportunity to shut up. You know? 'cause you don't know. Um, but having said that, you're right. The trauma issues can be anchored to something you've seen, something you've experienced, and it can be anchored further back additionally to something you experienced as a childhood with a father and mother situation. And it goes on and on and on. And then the coping mechanism is never dealt with. In that instead we just numb the symptoms out with medication, whereas we look at it from the standpoint of no one is born with a medication deficiency. In other words, I wanna know. That, that it's okay for them to have certain feelings or emotions. That's very normal. And if you didn't, I would be concerned. And so what are we gonna do? We're gonna go back and ensure that they're producing a good amount of dopamine and serotonin properly. We're gonna make sure that they have proper coping mechanisms. We're gonna establish coping, coping mechanisms, and we're gonna do the level of. Things we need to do. Sometimes the people have trauma like that, they need a few hormones because the brain chemistry gets off. I mean, I could go on and on with examples, but it can be corrected most of the time if we just have an open mind and a heart, and if most importantly, corrections what we want. But if we stop at the diagnosis, people settle in that all the time and they begin to own it. I have or I am, and that becomes the problem. For sure. And you know, I've had some guests on the show describing that they actually store their trauma as a physical pain intention. Yeah. So, you know, a guy comes in and says, Hey doc, you know, my throat is really tense and in pain all the time. And if they just like, all right, well here's this stuff to soothe it. They would've never found out. You know, luckily his doctor therapist worked together to find out that it was actually just from, from trauma and PTSD. Yeah. And he was storing it, clenching his throat muscles all the time. Some people with their shoulder lower back. Um, you know, I've talked to plenty of veterans on the show who had. And one guy had a huge, huge muscle knot in his back from, from submarine life and not from the physicality of submarine life, but from the stress and the burnout. And that's how he stored it. And you know, he, he described the day he got. Um, you know, this like full length deep massage and, and she was able to get rid of that knot and it brought him to tears. She just started crying because of the, the release of it. So, yeah, there's a lot of stuff we can get into. And I wanna start with, you talked about law enforcement and then martial arts, and then it kind of, how did this all lead into, you know, functional medicine and, and was your wife, was it you and your wife, and then what you do now or did your wife come about from what you do now? Great question. Um, in law enforcement, um, I was kind of married to the job, I suppose, right? And my wife, along the same time in conventional medicine, was kind of married to medicine, uh, a brief. Think about her story in just a moment, but, and how we met. But as my le later years of law enforcement started to come to an end, I was transferred to the police academy, uh, where I was in charge among other things, with developing a wellness program for the law enforcement officers. And I found some shocking statistics that. Told me they didn't live very long. As a matter of fact, 66 or 65 years of old respectively was the average age of death for a 20 year retired male police officer. And that really bothered me and I wanted to find out why. So I did develop a wellness program based upon all the things I could find out. And I started just studying about this and I realized that trauma and stress and life and. Connectivity and lack of sleep and all this stuff was not affecting just law enforcement, but it was affecting the world, and I kind of saw that coming and so I just continued to pursue academia and really understand more that I could put myself into place. And it didn't. It wasn't a big change. People think this is different. You know, you're a doctor now. You were a police officer, then. No, I'm still protecting and serving. I'm doing the same thing. It's just different. It's probably more broad actually, you know? And, um, so in my studying time, just after I had retired, uh, from police work, my wife had just started the Functional Medical Institute. And the reason she started the Functional Medical Institute was because mainstream medicine fired her. Because she was getting too many people, too well, and she didn't run enough. Procedures and studies, and that's what she was told. And so of course, that sent her spiraling into depression, if you will. But she got up one day and started the Functional Medical Institute. And I came into her life probably three months after that. And it was just a by chance meeting, love at first sight. And, uh, there's a, there's a movie out there about it. It's called the Prayer List as a matter of fact. But, um, we met and I, I guess. We can say the proverbial phrase, the rest is history at that point. Yeah. So tell me a bit more about, you said you saw the statistics for law enforcement and, and their retirement and death ages, and you said you, you mentioned the words wellness program. So what did that look like? Did you make like a private course for first responders to attend or what, what did that kind of look like? I did a lot of different things with that. First of all, it wasn't just about exercise. One of the worst things that I found out. In dealing with the exercise component for law enforcement is what they were doing was the worst thing they could do. Because if you've got a person who's high cortisol driven all the time, or high stress all the time, and then you come in and give them what they might want or what they're used to is more high stress, high intensity exercise or CrossFit type movements, that's the worst thing to do because they need to learn how to. Lower the cortisol so you can actually utilize basic exercise knee, uh, techniques by conventional weight training and probably some stretching, probably some cardiovascular activity to where you schedule rest periods to where you don't allow them to start running around and. Hut hunting all day. You know, you slow them down a little bit. So that was how we made an adjustment with the exercise. And then we worked on things such as sleep. What kind of things you need to do for sleep? How do you improve sleep sanitation. Sleep hygiene, and what supplements might you want to take? Then how do we do nutrition? Because we know that law enforcement eats poorly and we know that they don't know better. And we know that that's not healthy because it's gonna drive hypertension and diabetes respectively. So we worked on all that. And finally we worked on the emotional component. You know, how do you deal with the trauma? And the way I look at it was just much like this year, uh uh, an officer or a military person is, instead of driving down the center of a road, they drive in the ditch. Because they're on the upper end spectrum of maybe stress all the time. And then at the end of their day, end of their shift into their tour, well that's done. They bounce all the way across the road because they actually have the equal and opposite reaction, and they go in the dumps over here and they're almost comatose for a while until it's time to go back to work. Then they go back across the road again, and so they never spend time living between the lines. So we would factor in times and strategy for them to relax, teach them relaxation techniques like diaphragmatic breathing, to teach them to take a vacation with their wife. Not with another cop or not with another military person, to maybe get out alone for a while and just chill out and relax, get away from social media. So we talked about all those things and we had a really good SU successful program with that for a number of years. Yeah, I totally hear you on that. And I, I did wanna clarify, so we mentioned the Functional Medical Institute a bit, and it's in Tulsa, Oklahoma now. Is it in person only or do y'all do telehealth services? Oh yeah, we've got people really all over the country. We're licensed in almost every state. Um, and it's been a blessing, I think, you know, as much as COD. Was a negative for a lot of different people. Turned out to be quite a positive for us because we were able to, uh, expand, uh, a lot of our services more broadly like that and get multi-state licensure. So now we're able to do telehealth pretty much wherever. Okay. And I want to get a better understanding of who should go and see you for help. Know, I, I would think there's, there's pretty much two demographics that we deal with. One is the Mr. Whiskeys of the world, you know, for example, who just say, you know what? I don't want to get sick. I know I'm not at my best. I wanna know how to do this thing where I can live more a preventative life. I know I might need to make some changes, but I wanna partner up with someone to teach me how to make those changes, teach me how to do it, and just walk with me through this idea of increasing health span. Right. The other demographic is, is last, but we have some, which is the high level athlete who wants to maximize and optimize performance, perhaps stay on the field longer, stay in the game longer. Okay. Yeah, I think that preventative side is really important. Yeah. Now a lot of people wait until they're sick to see a doctor, so to speak, but there's a lot you can do beforehand. And I wanna talk about, I mean, I know on your website you have a lot of different resources including, uh, a couple books. So I'd love to go over those as resources for people who are thinking about. You know that more preventative side. Thinking about nutrition and fitness, could you talk a little bit about some of the books? Yeah, we've written several. The first one we wrote was Quest for Wellness, which is basically a handbook for, uh, really putting it all together, physical, emotional, intellectual, spiritual health where people can use that book kind of as a tutorial and a guide to find something in there to do. In each and all these areas, no matter where you are in your fitness journey, there's a lot of stories in there. There's a lot of motivational techniques in there, a lot of tools in there for them. And then you go to the one fork, your diet, which is really more about lab testing and what you can do to stay well and keep a, what you need to understand and what you need to test if you're not. And in there, interestingly, we talk about a concept called frauds, and we say, don't fall for the frauds because it will take away who you are and. Frauds is really an acronym. Fear, resentment, anger, unforgiveness, disappointment, and shame. And when we're living in those areas, we're not really living to the fullest of our capacity and, and really in who we are. And then from there we talk about surviving the Garden of Eaton. Nice title, but that was one that we really wanted to understand from a biblical spiritual point of view where it all went wrong. Why do so many people struggle with nutrition so bad? And it all started in the Garden of Eden, you know, we know the first temptation was with. Food. So we kind of break that all down for people to kind of get, and then from there we did a devotional book, which was called The Narrow Road, which is just my wife and I sharing our hearts about. You know, various things. Little one page devotionals, or one and a half page devotionals for people to read. And then from there we wrote two more that just came out this year. Uh, they're not on there yet. They will be. Um, one is called Peptides Unlocked. The second one is called Hormones Unlocked. So we'll be doing an unlocked type of series. The next one on there, sometime probably next year, will be fat Loss Unlocked. So we'll keep that on luxury as going. And then we're just finishing up one now called Authentic Longevity, which should be out very, very soon. So those are the, some of the resources we have. And there's a, you know, there's a bunch of blogs and videos on there as well, so I wanna. Address, uh, as far as the, the dietary one specifically, do you believe, 'cause I've studied, you know, food throughout the Bible as well, and I'm curious to what you and your wife came to the conclusion of, um, do you believe that people should be vegan or vegetarian or do you believe in, um, omnivorous diet? Like what kind of was the conclusion that you came to? I looked at all of it. I really did, and I get it. People have their preferences. I get it. They have their concepts and ideas, and they have the reasons. But here's the deal. Prior to the fall of Man, it was clear that vegetarianism was the concept. After the fall of Man and after Noah landed his boat, it was clear we began to eat a meat. We became carnivores as well. And so I haven't seen that change. We should eating some meats, animal products, and we should eating plants. It's both. Now, I get it. There are a lot of people out there today that really talk about one or the other, but I go further in the Bible and I think, okay, who is the example we should be looking at? And that would be the life of Jesus. And the first meal he had post resurrections was. Fish. So you know, when I look at that, there's no way that we can say that it is vegetarianism and there's no way that we can say that it's only prescribed to be the carnivore diet. It's somewhere between. And then finally, I'll conclude my answer with this, for those hardcore carnivore enthusiasts, and by the way, the majority of them are basing that on evolution as opposed to creation. So that's clearly a different uh, yeah. Thing. And a lot of people don't know that because these people sometimes will claim they're Christians or claim they're people that fall in God's principles, but they don't. It's just not there. But there is a Tree of Life in Eden and that same tree of life is mentioned in Revelation in the New Heaven. So apparently it's both right now and apparently, uh, you know, post-resurrection, I suppose it's gonna be primarily, um, plants. Again, if we eat. Yeah. And, and for the carnivorous enthusiast, if you look at Daniel, what did he eat right? He ate only the vegetables and he That's right. All of you know the kings. Fat and meats and all that. So, and most of the kings in, in the, you know, old Testament were eating Wagyu, the equivalent of Wagyu steak. You know, you, like, I keep Solomon, his, just for him and his palace, they had 10 fatten oxes and 10 pasture oxes a day and a hundred sheep, which is insane. I mean, yeah, I thought it was insane. And then I thought about how, how many animals must be killed and eaten today. And I said, I guess it makes. It, it seems less, but again, that was just for one palace, not for a whole country. But I think it's interesting. Yeah. Even if you say, okay, I don't believe in God, I believe in evolution. Um, so why did I evolve to have teeth that can, or specifically for plant matter, you know, you know, like it, because I feel like if I was a carnivore, all my teeth should be sharp then. Right? I mean, I'm know scientists, don't get me wrong, but Yeah. What they do with that one is they kind of twist things a little bit. They say, well, okay, uh, like a, um. A baboon or a gorilla, they have teeth too, but they have a longer GI tract. The longer GI tract allows for the plants to be broken down properly, and so these plants that have a hard time being broken down. Are meant to be eaten by them because of the longer GI tract, the longer transit time, and humans have evolved. They'll say that word. They've evolved to have shorter GI tracts. And the reason that people, this, this is something, the rationale, the reason we started eating plants is because the amount of meat products begin to go down. And so they had to do what they do to bring in some plants to help their self survive. And they just haven't learned any better, you know? And now, but I do think some benefits exist from that. And the benefits don't come from that. They come from what you're not doing, which is inclusive of the, uh, standard American Western diet. So that, that's the truth. And by the way, I have had people do hardcore carnivore, much like the, some of the kings of old and I have watched their labs go to horrible places. Yeah, I, I've seen it. And most people. I don't believe it, but when you're biased, you know, I try not to be bias. I try to work really hard not to be implicitly biased, but when you're biased, you tend to only look for evidence supporting your claim. Yeah. Yeah. And so that can get in there to anybody, anybody's life, including mine, I suppose. Yeah, I think that's one of the logical fallacies or something like that is, is what they call it. And um, all I know from what I've studied is, uh, those bathroom trips are brutal when you're at carnivore only. That's all I say on that. And um, again, we don't have any organs that produce cellulase in abundance to help digest cellulose, which for those who don't know chain, like, um, kind of like if you think of how you, you can rip a piece of paper, but if you try to just pull a piece of paper, you know, um, hence. Corn and other stuff that we just don't digest, which I'm sure everyone's had their fair share of witnessing that event, so to speak. Speak so. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, it's interesting. So you mentioned kind of the standard, uh, American diet. I know a lot of people talk about there are, you know, the Mediterranean diet, there's the European diet, there's Asian diet, there's, um, you know, we've got a lot of research in fasting, keto diets and all, and intermittent fasting. A lot of diff, everywhere you go, someone's telling you to eat differently, so, mm-hmm. What have you found in all of your research? You talked about kind of a, a balanced diet just shortly ago. What have you found is, is best or what do you kind of, so to speak, prescribe to everyone? 30,000 foot view is, is eating natural foods in their natural packaging, the way they're naturally made. You know, and so that, that's a 30,000 foot view. But I do genetics on almost every person, and there is some genetic tendencies to base based upon, you know, perhaps where you came from geographically, you know, the, uh, the, her heritage, if you will, or the, the ancestry, if you will. There's some little. No shifts. I suppose some people can tolerate dairy a little bit better than others. Some people can at all, and some of that is genetic. And then some people tend to prefer more of the um, um, I'll say moderate carbohydrate diet if they have like an Asian descent. Whereas compared to the European descent, maybe more of the uh, Mediterranean paleo style. So there's a little subtle differences. With that said, my wife and I, neither of us will prescribe or do we prefer to even use the word diet, because the word diet tends to, um, indicate what you're not supposed to do, and you get to focus on the things you're not supposed to do. And, and I, I realize, you know, looking. At the Bible in my studies on that end, based upon a previous question, you know, uh, what did Satan do to Adam and Eve? You know, he got them focusing away from abundance and upon deprivation. So to me, that's why diets don't work it, it's the wrong focus. So we give people, generally speaking, a list of what we consider anti-inflammatory foods, which are in their natural packaging and natural sourcing as well. And we say to them, have as much as you want. If you're hungry, eat. If you're not, don't. And to do that, we're teaching them not only the principle of abundance, but we're also teaching them that they don't have to eat X number of times per day at X number of meals because that doesn't fit our heritage either. Because from a genetic standpoint, we still are hunter gatherers by DNA. Yeah. So it's like. Eat when you can and whatnot. Like That's right. Set times and schedule. And I will say, we all know that one friend who is not so good at digestion dairy, but mm-hmm. Eats all the ice cream and milk anyway. And then, uh, it's never a good time. Mm-hmm. So we all, we all know that one friend, but yeah. So I think you've also got some courses on your, on your website and know you mentioned. Well, well back step. Actually, I did want to ask you just for people who aren't, as you know, medically knowledge about some of this stuff, you mentioned the word peptides. Mm-hmm. You've got a whole book coming out about that. Yeah. Uh, but just for people who are curious, they heard the word and, and they don't know what it means, what could you talk about that and why it's important for our health? Well, peptides are naturally occurring substances in the body. It's not something that I made up, or not something that some pharmacist made up somewhere. They are chains of amino acids. Strong or stuck together in lengths of 50 amino acids or less, that would be a peptide. So when you bond two or three together up to 50, that's considered a peptide. And when you go above 50 and under a hundred, that's considered a polypeptide. And above a hundred is considered a protein. See, work it backwards of proteins made up of amino acids. So you can also say a protein is made up of. Peptides. So it depends on how you look at it. So they're natural substances made of amino acids, and we now have the ability to, uh, mimic those things that we're producing in the human body in a lab. In a natural setting, a natural form up with natural products, and we're able to bring those things back in under the idea that we produce less efficient Pap peptide production as we age. Peptides can initiate repair regeneration of tissues, joints, they can help lower fat tissue, grow muscle, help with your brain, renew your immune system, upregulate your mitochondria. So there's a lot of things they can do if you just use them and they're out there right now. They're becoming more and more popular. Yeah, I've heard, I've come across it in some interesting long, uh, longevity research and mm-hmm. Cell repair, which you did mention a book coming out about longevity. And I would say, um, what is one thing everyone could just start doing today to live a little bit longer? Yeah. I think it's this, it's not focusing on death. It may sound a little bit. Kinda simplistic, but it's really not, um, focus on life, you know? And what that means is every encounter you have, you wanna put everything you got into it so that you can leave it better than you found it. Um, love somebody else. Show them what, care about other people. Uh, take care of yourself, you know, so that you can care for other people. And it, those are simple principles, but it does matter. And I tell people, move every day. Uh, sit less, move more sitting is the new smoking. You know, people kind of get that. I tell 'em to make sure you prioritize sleep because that's the only time you really can rest and repair and regenerate. Rebuild, and, and I tell 'em to manage that stress. You know, get away from it all. Get away from social media, relax, um, go a vacation. Go on a date night with your wife. I mean, I do that every week and, uh, make no bones about it. I don't. Care who calls me, I'm busy. And so it, it's all about really looking at life differently and looking at it with this idea of the blessing. It is. 'cause you're only getting 1,440 minutes a day. That's all you get or that's what you get. It depends on how you look at it, you know? And so I look at it as that's what I get and I wanna manage it right. There's no refunds of time spent. You can't go spend your time and go, man, I blew that one. I'm gonna take it back to Walmart for a refund. It's not gonna happen. So ultimately, it, it, those are some principles that I, I know will help people have a better and increased health span. Yeah. And for out of those 1,444 minutes, glad y'all are spending them right here, learning how to improve your health. 'cause that's a good way to do it. I think you mentioned something important, which is actual rest. And I think so many people substitute sleep with TV time or video game time, or social media time. And there's a difference, like, you know, as, as you mentioned already, when your brain's. Not that your brain shuts all the way off when you're sleeping, but when your body actually goes into a different state compared to, you know, your social media time, which yeah. Based on all the episodes I've had on my show, social media time is honestly just damaging, you know, more than it is Good. Um, but yeah. And then, um, I've mentioned earlier we were gonna get into your courses. You have a couple different courses on the website. Could you kind of just talk about those, and this is a brief overview and, and what they kind of pertain of and who should do them? I mean, we got the goal, the goal reset plan, which is just a a no brainer. I mean, people wanna know where to start. They wanna start with where do I start with nutrition? I've been off course. I don't know what to do, what do I do? Where do I start? And you start right there at that little 30 day plan. And it's real basic. We're giving you a detox that you're gonna do for a couple weeks. We tell you what to do. There's no restrictions of calories. We give you all the nutrients you need to take care of you both to support the detox pathways, and then also to support just regular pathways as the regular basic nutrient you might need. And then we progress from there. Into a plan that might last for four months. In that case, we do our big lab, we do our genetics on you, and we can actually analyze both of those things and work with you in that four month process to not only do the basics, but create a transformative plan for the person that will benefit them for the rest of their days. Hmm. Yeah. And then I know we mentioned earlier on kind of the two demographics of people who see you, the preventative and then the restorative, so to speak. What kind of people should go to you with, what kind of health issues do you cover? Kind of like everything Or do you have more specialized, uh, care units that people should focus on? Or is it like, Hey, I'm not feeling well, Dr. Mark? Sure would. I, you got me. It would be pretty much everything. 'cause we realize that everything can create anything and anything can cause everything. And so they're all connected. So, you know, I should say this preventative. Let me just kind of, that's the mindset part of this, right? Within that mindset, you might be in a place in time where you just don't feel well for various reasons, but because you have the mindset of prevention. You're the right person, but within the idea of where you are right now, you don't feel well. We are all gonna find out why you feel that way and fix it so that we can transfer that not feeling well into a positive preventive mindset. So it's really wherever you are. I think it really boils down to the idea, uh, making your decision that you want to get better. Right. And we're gonna have your website in description below for people to check out everything, supplements, food and nutrition, personal care, equipment, books, courses, bundles, and of course, uh, anything else they need. And then I wanna leave with this question I feel like we've kind of addressed, I think it's a question that, you know, you could give a hundred answers to and we've, we've given some answers to them, but if you had to just pick one. To say what is the number one thing that people get wrong about health or the biggest misconception there is right now about health? What, what would that be? And, and what would you encourage people to reflect on when they find out that answer from you? You know, well done on that one. I like that one a lot. I, I, I would have to say it's the belief system that they don't have to be sick. Because ultimately, you know, like what is health? It's more than just the absence of sickness. It's the ability to do what you want, when you want, how you want, not hurt, the ability to live your life without the distraction of being sick or being ill. And so a lot of people don't believe that they've been in condition so many times that they are as they are because of a, b, c diagnosis. That simply does not have to be, and it's frankly for our, it's heartbreaking for us because we've seen people get better. We've seen people improve. We've seen people with autoimmune conditions get it reversed and live a great full, amazing life. We've seen people with osteoarthritis get corrected, osteoporosis get corrected, and type two diabetes get reversed. We've seen people with brain, you know, chemistry disorders get better. I think it's a belief system. Mm. You know, and, um, we may be crazy a little bit, but one thing I know, well, actually two things I know I don't have it all figured out, and I believe one person does, and I believe the second thing that our bodies are capable, able, and made to bring healing into that body so they're able to heal and re restore themselves if we give it the right information. Yeah. Not to sound cliche, but the, uh, not just surviving, but thriving, you know, having That's right. Abundance of health. I, I agree. And I think we have so many people let their ailment, whatever it is, become their identity. And I even did a whole episode on social media creating ailments as trendy or. Um, you know, the popularity and attention around certain, uh, ailments online. And I, I won't open up that can of worms right here 'cause that is a messy discussion and it's, it is. If, if you haven't looked into that, it's a very shocking thing. At least, at least to, to me, and I think a lot of the, uh, older generations, it's kind of strange to see the idea of I want to have depression, or I want to have anxiety, or I want, oh. Have Down syndrome and uh, uh, the, some of the stuff I've seen online, it's, uh, very interesting. People say we're in a mental health crisis and it's, there's so many different ones happening at the same time. So I think it's important, but I. On the flip side, on the positive side of social media of shows like this and of what you're doing with guesting and writing, there are a lot of resources being passed around. There are a lot of cons. There's a lot of conscious health choices being made more and more every day and a lot of education. What I say with that is. There's a lot of misinformation, misleading information, and a lot of frauds. Not the frauds that you mentioned, but actual frauds who Yeah. Promote health and they're on steroids or or other Yeah, medications. So be careful who you choose and, and who you listen to. But listen to Dr. Mark Sherwood. He was here and if you wanna listen to more of him. There, there's movies, there's books, there's other podcasts. But I wanna thank you for your time today. And again, if people want to connect with you further and check out your information, it's gonna be in the description below. And I appreciate everything you said and I hope that you know everyone today, whether you have an ailment or not. And especially if you don't have an ament, just take a step back to reflect on your health. Are you where you want to be? Are you just satisfied? And if you're just satisfied, can you be healthier? Can you be living more abundantly? Great question. Great way to think about it, you know? And I think the answer is yes and, and I guess for me, just parting remarks, I think I would want people to be encouraged if this is giving them a little bit of belief system to fire that concept of hope. That is a win. I kind of wear these little bracelets that I give away, says Hope dealer on it. Right? And, uh, give those things away because I want people to have it and I want people to get it. And when they have hope and they get hope, they're gonna go give hope. So, um, I appreciate your kind words about us. It's, it means a lot. And, um, we're gonna keep doing our best and I really appreciate you having me today.</p>
